{"id":6457,"date":"2013-11-06T14:48:24","date_gmt":"2013-11-06T13:48:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.ldh-france.org\/section\/loudeac\/?p=6457"},"modified":"2013-11-06T14:48:24","modified_gmt":"2013-11-06T13:48:24","slug":"francois-gemenne-sur-rue-89-casser-les-idees-recues-sur-limmigration","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/site.ldh-france.org\/loudeac\/francois-gemenne-sur-rue-89-casser-les-idees-recues-sur-limmigration\/","title":{"rendered":"Fran\u00e7ois Gemenne sur rue 89: casser les id\u00e9es re\u00e7ues sur l&rsquo;immigration"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ldh-france.org\/section\/loudeac\/files\/2013\/11\/gemenne.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-6458\" src=\"http:\/\/www.ldh-france.org\/section\/loudeac\/files\/2013\/11\/gemenne.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"250\" height=\"167\" \/><\/a>Peu connu du grand public, Fran\u00e7ois Gemenne, sp\u00e9cialiste des flux migratoires, s\u2019est fait rermarquer il y a quelques jours sur le plateau de l\u2019\u00e9mission \u00ab\u00a0salut les terriens\u00a0\u00bb anim\u00e9e par Thierry Ardison (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.rue89.com\/zapnet\/2013\/10\/30\/soudain-chez-ardisson-discours-fn-limmigration-secroule-247074\" target=\"_blank\">en ligne ici, avec le texte du d\u00e9bat<\/a>). \u00c0 a c\u00f4t\u00e9 de lui, Edwige P\u00e9nel, de M\u00e9diapart, et en face, Florian Philippot, dirigeant du front national, comme toujours s\u00fbr de son fait.<\/p>\n<p>Mais cette fois, pas tr\u00e8s longtemps\u00a0: Fran\u00e7ois Gemenne a litt\u00e9ralement \u00ab\u00a0coup\u00e9 la chique\u00a0\u00bb du frontiste qui a fini par renonc\u00e9, lan\u00e7ant un \u00ab\u00a0bah, il va dire non\u00a0\u00bb qui a r\u00e9sonn\u00e9 comme un aveu d\u2019incomp\u00e9tence lorsqu\u2019Ardison lui rappelle que le FN veut ramener l\u2019immigration de 200.000 \u00e0 10.000. En fait, Gemenne n\u2019a pas dit non, il a seulement rappel\u00e9 que la France est engag\u00e9e par des accords internationaux, et qu\u2019il y a aussi des Fran\u00e7ais qui \u00e9migrent\u2026<\/p>\n<p>\u00c0 la suite de cette \u00e9mission, le site rue 89 a eu la bonne id\u00e9e d\u2019inviter Fran\u00e7ois Gemenne a donner son avis de sp\u00e9cialiste sur tous les clich\u00e9s qui circulent en mati\u00e8re d\u2019immigration. On peut trouver l\u2019article, intitul\u00e9 \u00ab\u00a0On a soumis les id\u00e9es re\u00e7ues sur l\u2019immigration \u00e0 celui qui a mouch\u00e9 le FN\u00a0\u00bb \u00e0 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rue89.com\/2013\/11\/05\/a-soumis-les-idees-recues-limmigration-a-celui-a-mouche-fn-247211\" target=\"_blank\">cette adresse<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Extraits<\/p>\n<p>Sur les salaires\u00a0:<\/p>\n<p><strong>Question\u00a0: Ces travailleurs acceptent des faibles revenus et du coup, les salaires baissent&#8230; <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>R\u00e9ponse\u00a0: C\u2019est compl\u00e8tement faux. En particulier, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.lejdd.fr\/Politique\/Actualite\/Detecteur-de-mensonge-L-immigration-entraine-t-elle-une-baisse-des-salaires-268873\" target=\"_blank\">pour les salaires<\/a> des professions plut\u00f4t peu qualifi\u00e9es. <a href=\"http:\/\/lexpansion.lexpress.fr\/economie\/l-immigration-aurait-un-effet-positif-sur-les-salaires_253423.html\" target=\"_blank\">On constate<\/a> de mani\u00e8re assez nette que les salaires de ces emplois augmentent gr\u00e2ce \u00e0 l\u2019apport de l\u2019immigration. <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Parce que les immigr\u00e9s prennent les salaires tout en bas de l\u2019\u00e9chelle et que par cons\u00e9quent, les Fran\u00e7ais remontent un peu. C\u2019est comme s\u2019ils gagnaient un \u00e9chelon. On consid\u00e8re que <a href=\"http:\/\/ftp.iza.org\/dp6258.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">l\u2019impact moyen<\/a> est de +0,27%. Aux Etats-Unis, les r\u00e9sultats <a href=\"http:\/\/economics.ucdavis.edu\/people\/gperi\/site\/papers\/rethinking-the-effect-of-immigration-on-wages\" target=\"_blank\">sont comparables<\/a> [PDF]. <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Dans les professions plus qualifi\u00e9es, l\u2019impact sur les salaires est beaucoup plus faible, quasiment nul. <\/em><\/p>\n<p>Sur les motifs de migrations\u00a0:<\/p>\n<p><em>En 2012, plus de 33\u00a0millions de personnes <a href=\"http:\/\/www.europe1.fr\/International\/Les-refugies-climatiques-se-multiplient-1532561\/\" target=\"_blank\">ont \u00e9t\u00e9 d\u00e9plac\u00e9es<\/a> \u00e0 cause de catastrophes naturelles. C\u2019est un chiffre sup\u00e9rieur \u00e0 celui des personnes d\u00e9plac\u00e9es \u00e0 cause des guerres ou des conflits.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Fran\u00e7ois Gemenne est en effet persuad\u00e9 que les migrations climatiques seront un dossier essentiel de ce si\u00e8cle, m\u00eame si ces migrations se font pour le moment sur de petites distance, la plupart du temps \u00e0 l\u2019int\u00e9rieur du pays.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Peu connu du grand public, Fran\u00e7ois Gemenne, sp\u00e9cialiste des flux migratoires, s\u2019est fait rermarquer il y a quelques jours sur le plateau de l\u2019\u00e9mission \u00ab\u00a0salut les terriens\u00a0\u00bb anim\u00e9e par Thierry Ardison (en ligne ici, avec le texte du d\u00e9bat). \u00c0 a c\u00f4t\u00e9 de lui, Edwige P\u00e9nel, de M\u00e9diapart, et en face, Florian Philippot, dirigeant du&hellip;  <br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/site.ldh-france.org\/loudeac\/francois-gemenne-sur-rue-89-casser-les-idees-recues-sur-limmigration\/\">Lire la suite <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Fran\u00e7ois Gemenne sur rue 89: casser les id\u00e9es re\u00e7ues sur l&rsquo;immigration<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":106,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_eb_attr":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[45,37],"tags":[114,160],"class_list":["post-6457","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-actus_section","category-extreme-droite","tag-extreme-droite-2","tag-migrants"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v26.8 - 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